Alive and well. This is the Motcast. Conversations with Dr. Motley. So today's episode of the Motcast is going to be a little bit different. What's up guys? My name is Matt, your host here for this ole podcast. Hope you're enjoying what you, uh, what you listened to and we thank you for always tuning in to listen, wanting to give everybody a little bit of a picture into the origin story of Dr. Motley. How did a young Chris Motley grow into the Dr. Motley that we know and love today? What did he just like appear one day? Did he fall from the sky? Did he come up from the ocean? We need to know how he got here and what his plan is, what's his agenda? Now we're not going to get into all that. We are going to learn a bit about how he grew up, where he grew up and how he got into Chinese medicine and kinesiology. And unfortunately for you, you're probably going to have to learn a little bit about me too.
But anyway, I hope you enjoy it. This look into Dr. Motley's origin story. We're going to call it "Meet Dr. Motley" and this is the first part in a series. I'm not really sure how many episodes we're going to have, but I've, like I said, hope you enjoy it. You know I had an idea we could just do like a, just kind of a get to know you where you just kind of lay your story out. Yeah. And I mean like all the way back to when you were a kid and why you got into what you're doing. Like the passion behind it. Family connections. We can cut that up into a series. Yeah, you do like a special meet Dr. Motley series. We could just sit here and talk about why you got into all this stuff. So where were you born?
Dr. Motley (01:45):
Fort Oglethorpe, Georgia. Ooh. How's born of Fort Oglethorpe Georgia dad was born in Chattanooga so my whole family is born in different spots cause dad was in the military. Right. So that's what Fort Oglethorpe, North of Rossville, which is right on the line of between, you know, in line of Chattanooga in Georgia. That's where it's at now.
Not bad. Yeah. That's cool. So when did you, you moved on like where you moved around a lot when you were a kid?
Dr. Motley (02:08):
I moved around a lot cause dad was in the army. Uh, he was a drill Sergeant for, he was an active service or in the service for about 21 to 22 years and he switched eventually from the army to the air force because they were moving them around. So brother and sister, my brother was born in South Carolina and then they moved over to Hawaii. My sister was born there when I was born in Georgia. We eventually moved to Kansas. We'd been, we moved back to Tennessee. And so it was always that modular type living. And the only reason I'd ever went to the military was because I did not want to be moving around whenever somebody else told me to. I remember that when I was a young person cause you didn't really feel stable. And uh, the one good experience though was anytime we were in that military setting I was, I always encountered people of different cultures. So that was the good thing. Yeah. When I lived in Kansas, we lived out in the farmlands and it was in Topeka, Kansas cause dad was transferred. He was, he went outside of the military and got a civilian job and he was still like in the reserves and so we moved out there and I remember we, the duplex, um, community we lived in was an old air force base, had been converted to like rentals and everybody that was an up and down our street was, we had people that were from Hawaii, Filipino and African American, Caucasian, just a whole variety of culture.
Dr. Motley (03:30):
I went to school at a small Christian school and whenever my friends would come home with me to come out and do like a weekend, you know, a sleepover or something, they would see all these different cultures and it kind of freaked them out. It was not that they were prejudice, they just didn't know how to handle it. They were like, what is going on? There's so many people there. To me it was so normal, even that small because people thought me being half Asian, I used to get joked about a lot. And so it was kind of good that I was in that community where you feel at home.
That's amazing. I grew up in Tupelo, Mississippi. It's not a big city, but it's also not a tiny, tiny little town. It's where Elvis Presley was born.
Dr. Motley (04:09):
Oh yeah. Did they have a big monument?
Um hum. His birthplace and a whole little park.
Dr. Motley (04:14):
Was it true that he was a twin, like ended up as 29 passed away or something when you're young?
I think so, but I haven't done a lot of research into it. Honestly. I should know way more than I do.
Dr. Motley (04:23):
Oh goodness. I mean, who's going to have the time to know about Elvis Presley and all the, all the icons are all the hound dogs. My dad. So my dad was big into like rock and he knew like The Who and he knew that the Beatles, but he was in church. But when he got, he was converted at a young age. But then when he got out of the army, he really got serious about God. He said, it's so we couldn't listen to any rock music or no blues or any pop.
Dr. Motley (04:48):
And I remember we lived in a small duplex into Pika Kansas and the duplex beside us was getting remodeled and I would be asleep. And the guys that were remodeling would be listening to the Beatles. And I remember listening and hearing revolution and, um, a few other songs. And I was even as a young guy, was like tapping my foot and I would sing it and dad would be like, who? W what do you sing in there? And I was like, Oh. He goes, we don't, we don't seem that kind of music. But now I would be the first person with my kids. I mean, they got to experience, some good music. And I'm like, no, you're going to listen to Beatles. It's like 101, this is classroom. You got to learn this and find out about it. Right. So I was, I was completely sheltered.
Dr. Motley (05:30):
I didn't even know any Beatles. Like from then on, I didn't know anything about the Beatles or led Zeppelin or The WHO knew heard about Creedence Clearwater, but the only music my dad listened to was John Denver. Oh yeah. And a little bit of Johnny Cash.
Nice. Okay. So military kid moved around a lot, lots of exposure to different cultures. What's the, I'm guessing the connection to like Eastern medicine, Chinese medicine is familial, but how did you actually get into it? Is there, is there an early memory you have where you were just like, this is what I'm going to do?
Dr. Motley (06:02):
I would say that the memory that I had never struck a chord to say I was going to do Chinese medicine, but even at a young age I could, through breathing in my thoughts, could make my hands and feet get real warm.
What?! Yes. Okay. Tell me about that. Tell me about Your Powers.
Dr. Motley (06:20):
When I was very young, I remember that some people would say it was your nerves and or your autonomic nervous system, which is a part of that (part of it). But I remember my hands would get very, very hot and steamy hot to where I could put it on my pant leg and literally feel the heat and through my jeans or through my pants to where it would actually steam up on my jeans. And I didn't know why I could do that. And till I started around my friends when I was younger, I had chronic digestive system problems, but it stemmed from me feeling a lot what other people felt. I could be around people and knew when somebody was upset or angry and I wanted to stay home a lot. In fact, one year, I think it was my second or third grade year, I remember this, I was only two days away from being, having to repeat the year before. And I still want to do my score, but I didn't want to be around anybody and that I kind of blocked that out of my head. But it's because I would walk by somebody and I misinterpreted it. I knew they were angry or I knew they were hurting, but I thought that was directed towards me. I wasn't, it was just that I felt that they were angry. You would internalize and internalize a thing and I made something, I'm at fault for something. So you add those to me like I could heat up real well. I could feel a lot what people were feeling. And so years went by and I never correlated it to my Asian roots. When I got into chiropractic care, the thought of doing healthcare stuck in my mind because my brother and my dad benefited from having alternative healthcare. My dad was supposed to have back surgery and he did it because he used to always wear a back brace.
Dr. Motley (08:10):
And then my brother was supposed to have continuous allergy shots and inhalers. Well, sleeping in the same bed with my brother. He was always breathing through his mouth and he started breathing through his nose. Well later I found out just a few days later that my dad had gone to a chiropractor and started visiting him. And then the same chiropractor said, well why don't you come in and let me work on your son's neck that had the breathing problems cause he had dust mite allergens and he started breathing through his nose and he said his upper neck was out of alignment. Oh wow. Put compression on the nerves. Couldn't breathe well. So I planned on going to chiropractic school just because of the effect it had on the family because I thought I was going to do something in healthcare. And that was one option. The other option was being a pilot wanted to be a jet pilot because my dad was in the Air Force.
Dr. Motley (08:57):
And I was going to think about doing, going into art as well cause I could do watercolor decently. Cool. And the whole Chinese aspect, it culminates to this. So I went ahead and went to chiropractic school, never planning on doing Chinese medicine. Not that I didn't have it, have an effect. I just didn't plan on going there. And when I got into school, I went to the classes and with all due respect to everybody else that's a chiropractor. When I went to some of the adjusting classes, I didn't like the patterns they showed because it was the same pattern of treatments like, this person has this, are you just going to treat that? And I get bored with that type of patterns. Yeah. So when I went into frequency medicine, kinesiology, I went to these clubs and classes where the concepts were taught.
Dr. Motley (09:45):
So everything was different, but it's all based on Chinese medicine. And now I found out that chiropractic and a lot of the alternative healthcare is based upon the electrical circuits of the body. Neurology is based on the circuitry of the body. Hands heat up, right? So when I start delving in deeper, I found out that my mom had been watching me when I was going through school and I was working on her and she was kind of paying attention. And I remember that at one time when I started heating up my hands, I would place it on the parts of her body that were sore. And when she saw me do that, she goes, Oh, that's what your uncles do. And I was like, which uncle's? Because I just have really immediate uncles in the city. She goes, no, they're like distant. They're great uncles.
Dr. Motley (10:30):
But there's also distant cousins in the Hills of Korea. And they were herbalists. And she also said that my grandfather and great grandfather would do Qi Gong or Tai Chi exercises in the morning to get their Chi to move. And so she said they could get their hands to get hot and get their bodies to get hot, and they would also monitor other people or help heal other people with herbs and doing Qi Gong. And I said, well, why wouldn't you ever teach me to do any of that or didn't you tell me about that? She goes, well, nobody ever sees them. And I said, well, can next time I go to Korea, can we go up to the mountains and go see him? She goes, Nope. So, yeah, I was like, why not? She goes, they're crazy. They're crazy. They're crazy people. That's a long story to tell you that it was in my blood from a young age and why that occurred for me to find out about heating up my hands with Qi, I guess it was just my natural route and must have chosen me.
Dr. Motley (11:23):
That's what I really believe. Yeah. Because I, I would've probably guessed being artist or going into, um, being in a pilot, but something stuck in my head saying I need to go into this realm. But Chinese medicine, that's how it changed me because going into school I did normal adjustments but using kinesiology, which is backed by acupuncture theory and practices, that's the thing that got my neck out of injury. It made it stick like, because you can get an adjustment and if you walk out and some of the muscles around the joint aren't stable or fixed, your neck will go right back out of alignment. But one of my friends used all the lymphatic and acupuncture points around my neck and my abdomen, which fed energy to my neck muscles. And it kept my neck stable. Say that it really got me like.
It's interesting to me cause I grew up, like I said, in small town Mississippi. So whereas you were moving around and getting exposed to a ton of different cultures, not me, like quite the opposite. It was like we were just there and our little Southern Baptist culture. Yeah. You know, so I didn't even, I think I thought chiropractic care was a cult until college. And that's the truth though. That's what I was kind of handed. Yeah. No, of course. Not mainstream yet. I know how dumb it is now, but, but uh, even still like I have to like jump over mental checks and hurdles that I got when I was a kid, you know, stepping into different situations and being like, is this, yeah,
Dr. Motley (12:51):
It's amazing though, isn't it, that when we are in the mainstream media or healthcare that if somebody said, well, you need to get your so many months checkup and you better make sure that you get your flu shot every year around winter, around fall.
Dr. Motley (13:08):
Nobody ever gives a second thought to it. Somehow culture has instilled in us that if I got a shot now, I'm not talking about flu shots, I'm not talking to any musician, but I'm thinking the actual entry of something into my bloodstream can somehow create chemically in effect in my body to resist flu. I don't know the mechanisms, I don't know how it works, but for some reason, even at a little kid age, I believe it's the truth. Yeah. But Chinese medicine comes along. People say, we're going to put needles in this area and we're going to chiropractic. We're going to push this around and move it. And we're like, that is witchcraft. Magic. That's me. Yeah, that's a good point. It's funny. That's how we're trained, like in culture to like respond to the ideals. And I think that even when you say when you're growing up into like a small town like me growing up a lot in Kansas, whenever I heard about somebody moving bones or shifting bones into alignment to make my brother breathe better, you really go, I don't even get what that means.
Dr. Motley (14:10):
And I mean I'm like seven years old and my dad had that belt that he wore cause he, it was like a support belt. Like you wear it like you see guys at home Depot where well he stopped wearing it and I was, cause I used to wear it like a belt, like a suit. I was like Superman belt and I thought it was really fun. Yeah. And then he said no. I had a guy that put me face down and used a clicker, they call it a little activator gun and I'm pressed on my back and been going for a few weeks and everything went back into alignment. But even at a young age I played tons of Legos, Legos and the chiropractor goes, well you now you use Legos to build something up and you can take one piece out and the whole thing falls apart.
Dr. Motley (14:50):
And I like, yeah. And he goes, that's what your body does. He says like Jenga. Jenga. Yeah. The best analogy is Jenga. You have a big block system and you can push the block in or pull it out very lightly, very slowly. And you still have stability and strength and sometimes even more strength. And when you pull the block out in certain directions or certain areas, and that's how neurology works. The neurology works with the concept that the brain responds to any type of input you put in the system, like pressing on the bone, pressing on the neck in watch, all you're doing is increasing the bandwidth between the place you're pressing on and the brain. So the brain actually fixes you that, but that's neurology. But now that I see it back in the day, I'd be like, my brother can breathe better. That's all that mattered to me.
Dr. Motley (15:37):
Was my brother breathe better that I could go to sleep. And I became a believer on a philosophy. I didn't know everything about it. Right.
I didn't even do chiropractic care until actually my wife and I got married. So that was like 2010 was the first time I had ever done it. But really the thing that made a lot of sense to me was, and I just never thought about it as like your your brain and your spinal cord, that's your nerve column. Basically, and your nerves are what carry the signals from your brain to the different parts of your body. So of course if your spine gets out of alignment because you're a kid in the 80s and you're carrying these crazy backpacks, which now they won't let kids carry, you know, that weigh so much, you know, so many pounds. Your back's going to get out of alignment. Like everybody our age has like a minor scoliosis from their backpack, from when they were in school. Yes. And of course if you're, your nerves are getting pinched, the signals can't carry. I mean it makes a lot of sense when you sit back and you're like, well yeah, uh, so I knew there was something to chiropractic care because when I started chiropractic care, much to my surprise, honest surprise, cause I just kind of went in, my wife had had experiences with it before and so she was down but my allergies disappeared. Really completely quit having allergies. They went away and I was one of those one to two year guys where I've never gotten sick a lot my entire life. I've got a healthy immune system, have always been able to not, I don't really get sick, but I would always get allergies. And when I started doing that, it was gone so much so that fallen out of getting regular checkups or whatever. And a couple of years ago, my wife played a show and there was a guy that was a horse chiropractor there, and so he was popping everybody's backs or whatever, and he popped my back and I had a cold. And when he popped my back 20 minutes later, and I'm not exaggerating, but that sounds like one of those weird things. 20 minutes later, my cold was completely gone. He, he cracked my back and I felt it clear up, dude. Okay. So crazy.
Dr. Motley (17:35):
It's when you think about how you clear up, this is a good combination. When you get an adjustment and you say, for two years I had the treatment and my allergies went away. It's true. You. If you went to an allergist and allergists would say like you had a ton of histamine response creating these cells called mass cells that release histamine caused your body to release histamine causing the allergy.
Dr. Motley (17:56):
When you get your body into alignment, there is, for example, one nerve called a Vegus nerve that comes out of your neck and when they adjusted you, they kept adjusting the neck or adjusting the lower neck, which would actually increase what they call a tone. The sound, the vibration of parasympathetic tone within your neck. The parasympathetic is your body's ability to calm down. So when they keep doing that to your neck, the information from your brain goes smoothly through your neck to your lungs, into your digestive tract where if you have toxic lungs or toxic digestive system, you will always have allergies. So just adjusting your neck will increase the information from your brain to these areas. And if there was like, let's say you had staff really or strep infection or an old parasite in your lungs or in your gut and those things were leaking into your bloodstream, causing you have allergies.
Dr. Motley (18:46):
And all of a sudden you increase the electrical output or input or bandwidth between your brain and those organs, you'll start cleaning stuff up on your own. And so you get regular chiropractic treatments increases your immune system by increasing the conductivity between the brain and the organ. But thinking about that is not farfetched, is it? I mean, when you think about it like, no, it's not, that's not, it's not like some weird, magical, magical stuff. I'm thinking, uh, now more and more, I appreciate in study the electrical activity of cells and of the nerves. So when you say your allergies went away and said you're cold one way, no joke. So one year I had a patient come in and they were, had to go on shows and such like that, and one of those individuals that probably wasn't necessarily believer in Chinese medicine. So you said your head opened up well, in Chinese medicine right underneath your eyes, you know when you get stuffed up right beside your nose, that's the stomach point.
Dr. Motley (19:41):
The points on the outside of the eyes, your gallbladder, if you get a cold regularly every year at the same time, you either have a chronic infection in one of those organs that somehow starts to become more active during that time of year. There's a lot of research and immunology likes to say he had a bacteria in your stomach, but for some reason it goes active every August. Some people come and go. I every August I get the worst sinus infection. So worked on the individual and found stomach issues and they're not have stomach issues causing my, yeah, allergies. So I hit a few stomach points all along the body and fix two vertebra in his neck. Just barely pushed in like Jenga. Just put my hand on there, put a lot of pressure and called up there like two hours later, like I don't know what just happened, but everything drained out of my body.
Dr. Motley (20:25):
Like all the mucus and it was grid. They're like, I am just draining so much. Even my ears are almost draining out right in my throat and the next morning show went fine. So I've had times where people, when you work on things like that have had, not to be disgusting, but if had mucus and snot that were like bright orange, Oh, bright orange green stuff coming out of their ears and they go, but that's scary. It is scary. I've had people that reported to me, but all those meridians that go around the teeth and the facial nerves, you correct by doing a chiropractic or kinesiology care, they'll have like pus and stuff come around their teeth around the edges, which is like hidden gingivitis or hidden bacterial infection. But that's what I think the proof to me like going through life and seeing that happened with my mom, my dad and my brother.
Dr. Motley (21:14):
But even more now, uh, the years of working on people and seeing those kinds of changes. And I could tell you some fun stories. Oh gracious. That's the good stuff. I love it when you get your neck adjusted or you get co concentrated. Now that it creates that chemical response. But I think most individuals in our society don't realize that everything is an external stress that creates an internal response resulting in a chemical change, creating a physiological or a physical activity or a physical action. So it's not unusual for me to think that the end result was a physical action or physical problem. Well, if you address the physical problem, like the neck out of being out of alignment, you then start to work backward and fix the chemical response, which is the histamine response. And that actually will start a trigger where you actually start to become aware of the outside influence or the outside stress that caused it.
Dr. Motley (22:11):
So when you start getting worked on like you were getting fixed, I've had many patients that come in and go, you know what? Every time I eat at a burger, I get a sinus infection after they get treated, they would never been aware of it. Or unless their neurology caught up to the point they go, Oh this, this dampens my immune system because I know it creates a chemical response in my body carrying this physical pain. See it goes forward and you'll, you can go forward and backward with it.
My wife, yes, she, she actually did, she was a singer in a band. She still sings, but she is the one that did chiropractic care because it helped all of that. It would help like with her voice and stuff. So that's how she kinda got me into it.
Dr. Motley (22:52):
That's right. Like when in people out there would hear something like that and they go, how do you mean chiropractic care would help your voice?
Dr. Motley (22:57):
I'm like, there are tons of muscles attached around all their Adam's Apple around your esophagus. They all attached to the vertebra in the front, around the front of the neck. If you can get those things, the muscles moving properly, the lymph nodes pump properly and we'll flush all the toxins out because you fix the muscles. That's how lymph nodes detox is by muscle movement.
And she was in a rock band, so she was always like headbanging and stuff. So she had like neck issues. So that's why we started going to see dr Axe. Oh man. Josh man, love that guy. He's a good dude. He's a good dude. I love that guy. But it helped her, you know, phenomenally. Can you imagine? I am no more allergy. Somebody. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Let's talk about hell yeah. I can't wait till like, uh, maybe we get her in here too. And here's the thing. My wife though, she's funnier than me, so I run the risk of no longer being host. If she comes in, what?
Dr. Motley (23:51):
It was just like boom, what it was us three and like, well Brett's not here today, but for Red's like, what do you mean? I got ousted? I'm like, you didn't get ousted. I'm just saying the one thing was Brett when he stretches himself thin, we talked about this, where he gets dehydrated. I'm always cautious when he doesn't. He has a migraine, like you'll have a migraine and he talked about that on the sleep episode. Yeah, he'll have a migraine and so I won't hear from him. Like, man, you need to let me know when it happens.
But anyone at this way for years can't sleep. We can't sleep. We had to sleep episode. Right, right. He was crazy.
Dr. Motley (24:23):
Now with your wife, like when she tours now, is she going to try to do a lot more next year or she's going to it.
She'll probably be like we call it the weekend warrior. She'll probably do more of that stuff and just a couple of weekends a month, you know, cause we're going to have two, two kids hopefully Lord willing by that time. Oh that's gonna be awesome. I'm excited.
Dr. Motley (24:39):
God, this has been a great convo. I like this kind of condo. This is good.
I like this. We should just do this on the side and we're building into its own special.
Dr. Motley (24:48):
I would love, I think like when we do these kind of um, conversations where I like it where it's just not like Dr. Motley, What would you do? Like okay.
And we got to continue next time we'll talk about, we'll pick up with like college cause we kind of covered childhood with this though.
We get the college. Yeah. College and all that. That'll be good because I love the real world. Real world. It's like cute. Oh.
Dr. Motley (25:10):
And you could say like, Oh, uh, Motley, you've had a lot of really cool things happen in your life at this time. I'm like, that doesn't account for the last 14 years where I had the heart, like literally working on the weekends in coming to a point where I almost gave up.
Oh, see, okay, so this is where my side this, this side series is going to go. Yeah, it's going to get into that.
Dr. Motley (25:32):
No, I literally was going to give up like I truly was going to stop it as what is this for and am I actually making impact? And you would think that as much people that I affected or how I helped them in their health, I still had a disbelief within myself that was perpetuating like, I feel tired. I don't even want to do this anymore. I didn't even, I'd get up in the mornings and I would drink. I would drink four Ventis a day, double shot Ventis a day and hardly eat and I'm not being like feel sorry for me. I just realized that if you're going to neglect your own body that way, yeah. Sums up. Oh, we can get into that.
I love it. All right, dude, I'm going to stop there.